{"id":92437,"date":"2017-08-01T03:11:12","date_gmt":"2017-08-01T07:11:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.robertmprice.mindvendor.com\/zblog\/?p=92437"},"modified":"2017-08-01T20:36:19","modified_gmt":"2017-08-02T00:36:19","slug":"hallucinating-the-archetypes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.robertmprice.mindvendor.com\/zblog\/hallucinating-the-archetypes\/","title":{"rendered":"Hallucinating the Archetypes"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\"<\/a>Carol and I have frequently discussed the experiences of people (including one old friend) who have experimented with DMT<\/a> and Ayahuasca<\/a>. We also watch the Hulu series \u00e2\u20ac\u0153The Path,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d which depicts the vicissitudes of a sect whose founder received his revelations from \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Mother Ayahuasca.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d The central question, as I see it, is whether, as advocates maintain, the substance induces visions of an otherwise invisible realm that far transcends our mundane waking world. Or are they simply Technicolor fever dreams? I have long been inclined to think these visions are purely subjective.<\/p>\n

But suppose they are not. Suppose they are veridical? This raises the same question familiar from the belief in divine prophecy: even if there are genuine prophecies from God, does that mean all<\/em> claimed prophecies are the real thing? Of course not. The Bible tells us more than once to scrutinize prophecies, to see whether God sent them, or maybe evil spirits are responsible\u00e2\u20ac\u201dor maybe just somebody\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s overactive imagination. Scripture offers two basic criteria, neither of them very helpful.<\/p>\n

First, if some ostensible revelation goes beyond, or against, established doctrine, then to hell with it (or, I guess, from<\/em> hell with it). You see the problem with this: if a revelation must check out with what we already believe, it ain\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t much of a revelation, is it? \u00e2\u20ac\u0153If it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s new, it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s not true. If it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s true, it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s not new.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d So it isn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t revelation, only reiteration. If a would-be prophet\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s offered revelation is rebuffed, he will likely storm out and start a rival sect. It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s happened many, many times.<\/p>\n

Second, if Carnak the Great ventures a prediction of future events, but nothing happens, then in retrospect<\/em> we can dismiss the false prophet. In other words, too late for the prediction, even if true, to be taken seriously. I can just see Noah\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s neighbors nervously looking at the massing storm clouds above, saying, \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Gee, I guess maybe we shoulda listened to that guy!\u00e2\u20ac\u009d Obviously, no one ever actually used this criterion. It is a fictitious device long after the fact in order to discredit the figureheads of rival factions.<\/p>\n

\"Amanita<\/a>So we must ask: how do you distinguish between a true glimpse of an alternative dimension from a mere drug hallucination? If there is<\/em> a difference, that is. I think there is a way to reframe the dilemma. It arises from the claim\/observation that these DMT trips are journeys of self-revelation, of deepening self-understanding. I have never used drugs and do not intend to, thank you, so I cannot attest to that. But I can\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t help thinking of two old friends who claimed that taking LSD greatly improved their personalities. I thanked my lucky stars I hadn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t known these jerks before<\/em> LSD. So I have to admit I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m skeptical and that, having no personal experience, I am approaching the question as an outsider trying to make sense of the phenomenon as positively as I can. Here goes.<\/p>\n

Suppose that the DMT\/Ayahuasca visions are subjective with no reference outside your head. Are they merely cheap thrills? No, there seems to be more to them than that. I repair, as I often do, to Carl Jung and his theory of the Archetypes of the Collective Unconscious. (Not only does it appeal to me intellectually, but I have experienced dreams that make sense on Jungian terms and were both meaningful to me, interpreting what was happening to me at the time, and also apparently precognitive.)<\/p>\n

Jung asked why certain basic images, mythemes, and symbols appear, independently, again and again the world over in myths, fairy tales, dreams, art, etc.\u00c2\u00a0 I mean, where there is no possible connection, no reasonable chance of borrowing or influence. For instance, there are pyramids on both sides of the Atlantic. Do we have to posit a lost continent of Atlantis, escapees from which carried blueprints for pyramids to Egypt and Mexico? Probably not. Surely the idea occurred to people in both hemispheres independently. The Archetype was latent in the Collective Unconscious, available to all. Nothing spooky, mind you: just the hardwiring of the human brain, analogous, say, to the language function.<\/p>\n

Well, if Archetypes can manifest themselves in dreams and in math and in myths, they can obviously pop up in hallucinations, whether those hallucinations are the result of DMT, Schizophrenia, or the Muse. Why not? Let\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s not commit the dreaded Genetic Fallacy! The medium is not the message. If the Archetypes are disclosed to you, it wouldn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t seem to matter much what you baited the hook with.<\/p>\n

Why does it matter whether the Archetypes are unveiled from the intra-psychic depths? Jung posited that the Archetypes are the keys to activating the necessary process of Individuation<\/em>.<\/p>\n

It is the process of maturation whereby one first consolidates the Ego, full of self-will and self-confidence. At this point a person is rightly self-centered. Once it is formed, it can serve as the launching pad for the next stage of growth, to become the Self. Then the individual comes to transcend the Ego. One\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s interests and sympathies broaden. The Ego was a central point; the Self is an ever-expanding circumference. In the end there comes to be no difference between one\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s own concerns and those of humanity. Some people never manage to attain to an Ego, but most seem to. Far fewer ever climb the heights to Selfhood. Albert Schweitzer did. Some others. Gandhi, Dr. King, Dorothea Dix. I guess the important thing is getting as far as you can. But how?<\/p>\n

To use an analogy unavailable to Jung, I would compare the Archetypes to the icons on your computer screen. Each is anchored to a program. You want to open and use those programs, and to do that you have to click<\/em> on the icon, right? \u00c2\u00a0And to do that, you have to see<\/em> the darn icon, right? Well, the Archetypes are the icons you need in order to access the \u00e2\u20ac\u0153programs\u00e2\u20ac\u009d hardwired into you, the stages of maturity you have the potential to achieve. Hence the important function of Archetypal symbols in art, myth, literature, etc. Deep calleth unto deep, for the artists dredged these symbols up from the gold mine of the Unconscious (the pre-imprinted brain structure) and scattered them along your path like breadcrumbs, or like Ariadne\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s Thread<\/a>. They are clues (a \u00e2\u20ac\u0153GPS\u00e2\u20ac\u009d) to your destination of Individuation.\"\"<\/a><\/p>\n

But how do we click on those icons? One way is to cultivate consciousness of the Archetypes in religio-mythic symbols, in scripture, ecclesial architecture, and liturgy. But great art and music can have the same effect. Ritual participation and artistic creation are ways of \u00e2\u20ac\u0153stepping into\u00e2\u20ac\u009d the symbols.<\/p>\n

I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m thinking that this is what is happening to those who cultivate \u00e2\u20ac\u0153altered states\u00e2\u20ac\u009d through the use of hallucinogens. And this way of looking at it makes our original question moot. In my opinion, DMT is not like the Zeta Beam transporting Adam Strange to the planet Rann. But you are<\/em> going some<\/em>place. Remember the 60s song, \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Journey to the Center of the Mind\u00e2\u20ac\u009d? That was a drug song. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Come along if you dare!\u00e2\u20ac\u009d I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t dare. I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t want to tinker with my brain. It seems to be working well enough as is. But I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m willing to grant that DMT psychonauts are penetrating the depths of their minds, encountering the Archetypes, rather as described in the Tibetan Book of the Dead<\/em>.<\/p>\n

I compare it to what Jung said about God, that he didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t need to believe<\/em> in God. As a modern Gnostic, Jung said he knew<\/em> God existed. But where? Inside<\/em>. In the Collective Unconscious<\/a>, flanked by the Archangels, er, Archetypes. That\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s the only relevant place God could be. Where else would you like<\/em> \u00e2\u20ac\u0153him\u00e2\u20ac\u009d to be? Orbiting the earth like a satellite, causing rain storms and orchestrating plane crashes? That\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s superstition.<\/p>\n

One more comparison: I think that hallucinogenic revelations are kind of like Pentecostal speaking in tongues. Traditionally, Pentecostals have believed that the Holy Spirit was inspiring them to speak God\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s praises in foreign languages they had never learned (whatever the point of that<\/em> might be). But linguistic studies have made it plain that they are simply spouting gibberish (see William Samarin, They Speak with other Tongues<\/em>). Pentecostals are threatened by such results (like Mormons disturbed at the DNA tests proving that American Indians have no Semitic genes and thus do not qualify as expatriate Israelites).<\/p>\n

But they needn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t worry, because shortcuts to foreign language proficiency are hardly the point. Speaking in tongues is and always has been ecstatic speech and has been practiced throughout the centuries by various cultures. It is \u00e2\u20ac\u0153speaking with the tongues of angels.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d When glossolalic utterances are \u00e2\u20ac\u0153interpreted,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d it denotes not translation of foreign speech but rather divining the significance of an oracle or a dream.<\/p>\n

It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s not an objective miracle, and it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s not supposed to be. Instead, it is an intra-psychic spiritual experience. Would the spontaneous ability to speak in an unfamiliar language even be<\/em> a spiritual experience? Not just a weird parapsychological anomaly? The same applies, I think, to meaningful hallucinations. They\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re \u00e2\u20ac\u0153just\u00e2\u20ac\u009d in your head. Which is the only relevant place for them to be.<\/p>\n

So says Zarathustra.<\/p>\n

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